NAB 2010: Gordon Smith Is Not Impressed
NAB chief tackles FCC spectrum plans on eve of Las Vegas confab
By John Eggerton -- Broadcasting & Cable, 4/12/2010 12:01:00 AM
National Association of Broadcasters President Gordon Smith says he will be looking for assurances from FCC Chairman Julius Genachowski and top broadband advisor Blair Levin that their spectrum reclamation plan will be voluntary. Having now examined the FCC's national broadband plan, Gordon does not like what he sees. He compares the FCC to The Godfather, and its "voluntary" proposal to one that can't be refused.Smith also takes aim at former FCC Chairman Reed Hundt and his revelation that Hundt was always out to replace broadcasting with broadband as the national medium, calling it "alarming" and "deeply disappointing."
Smith says he is pushing for a 10-year
renewal of the satellite bill, and can live
with letting DISH back into the distant
signal business. But he insists that he
can't live with the FCC picking winners
and losers among industries.
On the eve of his first NAB
convention
atop the trade group (a show that features
a Genachowski keynote), he talked with
B&C about these topics and many others,
including the future of broadcasting in an
increasingly broadband world.
Let's talk about the FCC's
proposed spectrum
reallocation plan now that it has been officially
unveiled.
We had hoped that it would actually be
what it was advertised to be, that it was
in fact voluntary because, if there is a
problem, broadcasters would like to volunteer
to help solve it. But, in fact, it's
not voluntary. If you read the fi ne print,
it is voluntary only in the sense of The
Godfather movie.
We assume it is an offer that you want to
refuse, so what is your alternative?
I think if the problem is really rural America,
broadcasters can find the ways and
means to help broadband providers get
all the access they need. But, ultimately,
it really is an urban problem. To get the
technical space they are demanding, you
have to close down stations. And when
you start taking 120 MHz away, as experts
explain it to me, you essentially take
away the deal of the digital transition that broadcasters made with
Congress. That
included multicasting and mobile video,
and now even 3D content.
These are all things that I think the
American people counted on when, in the
sum of millions of dollars, they bought
new televisions to enjoy the future of
broadcasting.
Some mobile video backers have suggested
that broadcasters can have it
all-HD and mobile included-while still
giving up that 120 MHz.
I simply hope they are right. That is
not what technical experts tell me in
great majority.
You are not saying that broadcasters
won't be able to give up any spectrum, so
long as it's voluntary.
If it is voluntary, there is an opportunity
for broadcasters to be partners
in this. Congress has already given
the spectrum space to the broadcast
industry to monetize. We can help
do that more efficiently than the
government can through compulsory
reallocation.
The FCC chairman, Julius Genachowski, is
going to be delivering his own keynote at
the convention. What would you want to
hear from him?
Obviously, we are very honored that
the chairman would come. He is welcome
and he will be among friends.
But sometimes friends have a disagreement,
and I hope he will simply
see the light as broadcasters see
it and give us the assurance that this
will be done in partnership and not
through compulsion.
Washington is all about broadband these
days. Do broadcasters have a role in the grand
broadband plan?
Sure. It is in helping to facilitate broadband.
But we see it not as an either/or
proposition, as Reed Hundt sees it. We
think broadcasting is an essential part
of the communications mix in America.
Free, local, emergency, news, weather,
sports; these are all broadcast features.
It is essentially the public option that is
available to the disadvantaged, and is a
generator of great content that is essential
to American communities.
If you compromise that space, you
compromise some of the qualities that
help America stay connected in the most
efficient way possible, and that is one-to everyone.
Do you
think the FCC can get all the spectrum
it needs without taking any away from
broadcasters?
I do. I think if history is any teacher, it will
show once again that technology solves the
problems of efficiency, or inefficiency.
You mentioned Reed
Hundt, a former FCC
chairman. What do you make of his master
plan since the mid-1990s to replace broadcasting
with broadband?
Frankly, I was rather offended, as a former
member of the Senate Commerce
Committee, that his secret musings were
never shared with the elected representatives
of the American people as it relates
to such a profound policy change. I think
it was alarming and deeply disappointing,
and every member of Congress should be
offended by it.
Have you gotten assurances from Genachowski
and broadband advisor Blair Levin that
that was not their plan as well, given that
they were top staffers under Hundt as
chairman?
No, I have not gotten those assurances,
but I intend to ask.
What happened to the satellite bill?
Frankly, it has been tripped up by collateral
issues many times now, but I do
believe this Congress will get it to the
president in the coming days.
There are two different
versions, a
five-year renewal and now a 10-year,
the latter apparently to make it deficit neutral.
Do you have a preference?
I think that the 10-year would be
terrific and would help Congress
with its budgetary scoring. In this
day and age, with technology moving
the way it is, 10 years will go
by very quickly.
The bill is not perfect, but it is
worthy of passage. Our preference
is for 10 years, but we appreciate
whatever the Congress ultimately
decides to do as long as it gets to
the president.
Why 10 years?
For the simple reason that this is
one of those issues that takes up
a tremendous amount of time of
Congress and the association. The
principles contained in this reauthorization
are good enough to last
10 years.
And you are OK with how it is structured
for DISH getting back into distant
signals?
Again, it is not perfect.
And that is one of the
imperfections?
Yes, but having been a legislator for 16
years, I can tell you that I have never voted
on a perfect bill. But those who will
vote for this are voting for a very good
bill.
There have been a lot of retrans impasses that have drawn
attention in Washington.
Would it be politic for broadcasters to leave their signals on cable?
I think these are private market-based discussions. They have been settled
in the thousands while the interruptions have been very few. I would not want
to see Congress try to dictate the terms of how private negotiations are
engaged in and concluded.
So, there is nothing wrong with the retrans system as it
is currently constituted?
Well, again, I don't know that anything is perfect, but retransmission as
it is operating is working extremely well and it is allowing important content
to be paid for. When you compare what cable pays for its own content versus
what it pays for our broadcast content, which is the most viewed, broadcast content
is widely wanting in what it receives.
The D.C. Court suggested in its decision on the 30% cable
cap that there was no longer a justification for imposing special obligations
like must-carry on that carriage regime/negotiation. I assume you would not
agree with that.
Yes. I think the Supreme Court is right on that score. Ultimately, time
will resolve that. But my sense is that the D.C. Circuit missed it on that, and
that the Supreme Court will right that. [Cablevision has asked the Supreme
Court to hear its challenge to must-carry, a rule it narrowly upheld twice
before in the 1990s-Ed.]
With broadcast and cable in a pitched battle over retrans
dollars, how is it going to work having a combined Comcast/NBCU in both NAB
and NCTA?
It will be an interesting cross-pollination. I think they are also going to
be members of the Motion Picture Association of America.
So, do you see any problems?
There are certainly problems that we can manage. I think both associations
will welcome them.
The Third Circuit has lifted the stay on loosening the
newspaper-broadcast cross-ownership ban. Does that help broadcasters any?
Yes, I think it does. It will take time for that help to show up. I think
what it will do is allow economies of scale between newspapers and TV and radio
outlets.
But there may not be much certainty. The FCC could try to
undo it in its quadrennial review.
I do think the FCC is sensitive to rulings of the judiciary and has some
institutional pride.
The FCC is contemplating the future of journalism. Where
do broadcasters fit in those contemplations?
I think independent journalism is hugely important to America and
vital to a free society. Whatever encourages the economics of that space I
think should be supported, and we support it.
What about suggestions that the government could underwrite public media as
a way to address concerns about journalism's economic future?
I think that is when the fox is financing the henhouse, and I don't think
that that is smart. There is a place for public media, but I think to damage
private journalism for the sake of public journalism that is financed out of
the treasury, I think that is a really poor choice.
How concerned are you about the FCC possibly financing a
public media initiative with spectrum fees, as the broadband plan suggests if
not quite proposes?
We would be in earnest opposition. I recall as a former member of the
budget committee that spectrum fees were a ubiquitous pay-for in a pay-go
environment. But they never make it, and I don't believe the broadband plan
will give the impetus. It is just an easy grab when you are introducing a bill
that requires money.
Steve Waldman, who is heading up the FCC journalism
inquiry, said it is not the FCC's responsibility to save any particular
industry. Do you think that is right?
Yes, but nor is it proper for the FCC to pick winners and losers. And I
think the FCC does have a responsibility to free and local-the public option,
if you will-and if it does away with broadcast, what does it regulate? It
currently doesn't regulate cable content or other broadband Internet content,
but perhaps that is its objective, to ultimately regulate the Internet.
Do you think that is the FCC's objective?
Who knows. I think it is implied in the broadband plan.
There is still no federal shield law. Why can't Congress
ever pass one?
It will eventually pass. First Amendment rights measured against national
security concerns are hard delineations to make, but eventually Congress will
find the right line to draw.
Let's say we have enough money to buy a cable system, or
launch a pure-play online video delivery site or buy a TV station. What would
your argument be for becoming a broadcaster?
I think you would have to have a real coupling of public service and
entrepreneurial energy, and if you have that, you ought to be in broadcasting,
because broadcasting merges business with public service in a way that is
valuable to the American people.
But is it the right investment for our dollar?
I think broadcasting's future is beginning to grow again because with the
digital transition, if broadcasting preserves its seed corn-in other words, its
spectrum-it will have new revenue streams and products to offer, including
mobile and 3D content delivery.
The advertising stream is rebounding, and retransmission, which
is a fair payment for great local content. All of those things I think would
suggest that you could do very well with broadcasting, and my source on that is
Les Moonves.
What if the FCC forces broadcasters off some of their
spectrum?
It is much more uncertain, and that uncertainty is unfortunate, because the
values that broadcasting serves are valuable still. We see a trend emerging in
America, which is also happening in Europe, that people are cutting their cable
cord because the digital age allows broadcasting to deliver the best picture, a
great variety of content, and all for free.
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The "deal" broadcasters made with Congress was for HDTV. Recall when Preston Padden was hauled in for a paddling after he suggested DTV be used for multi casting soon after the rulemaking had been completed? And when 720p was considered as something less than HD?
During the rulemaking process, the telcos complained about the possibility of mobile services. One of the broadcaster's arguments was that 8VSB could not be used for mobile services...which was the case at the time.
Smith may not be impressed because he is rewriting the history of the proceedings. Not that he is the first!
Bob Cleary - 4/19/2010 9:19:28 AM EDT -
Senator Smith is a breath of fresh air for broadcasters and he has immersed himself in the critical issues with an obvious sense of urgency. With no criticism of NAB administrations in the past, the Gordon Smith NAB era has the potential of being the strongest in recent memory. This interview, among others, suggests Mr. Smith is fully ready for his first NAB Show as CEO and President (and hats off to his administration and Executive Board for helping him get so well prepared).
KO - 4/12/2010 10:48:14 AM EDT
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